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One of the ways Toll Transitions estimates the value of compensation payable for damaged furniture and goods.

Bid on compensation

I RECENTLY moved back to Puckapunyal from Brisbane on what I would say is probably the most disappointing move, in the way of breakages etc, that I have ever had.

I have two questions:

First, does Toll Transitions have more than one furniture repair contractor for the state of Victoria or does it normally take more than five weeks for someone to come and collect your broken or scratched furniture to repair it?

Second, is it a standard procedure for Toll Transitions to use pages from ebay, a US site, not the Australian web site, not even the right item and with a few days left on the auction, as a determiner of market value. The way I understand ebay is that it is a proxy auction site, nothing more.

Does this mean to say that anybody within the ADF that moves and has items that are broken and are unable to be fixed, Toll Transitions will go to ebay and find an item that is close to the broken one and use that to give you your payout?
Sgt Robert Butchart
Communications Wing
School of Armour, Puckapunyal VIC

Helen Newell, General Manager, Toll Transitions, responds:
Toll Transitions provides removal services, including Indemnity cover for furniture and personal effects on behalf of Defence for Defence members.

The current Indemnity Scheme is a "make-good" scheme that was originally developed for Defence by DAS and Removals Australia and that scheme is now managed by Toll Transitions.

The principle of the scheme is to make good any loss or damage to a Defence member's furniture and personal effects based on a tiered approach.

If an item suffers removal related damage Toll Transitions will, subject to the exclusions and conditions outlined in the Easymove Guide, pay:

  • for the cost of repairs as substantiated by a quotation if those repairs are possible and/or economical, or;
  • pay for the supply of a like item, taking into account age, style and condition.

Where repair or replacement is not possible or practicable, Toll Transitions will pay compensation equivalent to the extent of loss/damage sustained taking into account age, style, condition and/or diminution in value.

It is important to make clear that the current indemnity scheme is not new for old insurance but based on this "make-good" principle.

In relation to the specific questions raised in the letter, I can advise that Toll Transitions has 13 furniture repairers based in Victoria.

While these repairers are required to meet Toll Transitions requirements, the demand on their services is high and as a result repairs do not always occur as quickly as hoped.

If members require repairs to be completed more urgently than the allocated provider has indicated, please contact Toll Transitions and we will attempt to make alternative arrangements.

When attempting to determine a current market value for items in order to determine an appropriate amount of compensation, Toll Transitions uses many avenues, including specialist suppliers and valuers, as well as current indicators such as various sites on the internet.

It is sometimes difficult to determine the value of certain collectables without using those guides as that value generally lies in what someone else is willing to pay for the item .

It is appreciated that Defence members move frequently and when damage does occur, that can be very frustrating.

I can assure Defence members that Toll Transitions is working hard with the removals industry to reduce damages and is also attempting to improve the application of the current indemnity scheme while developing alternative options for Defence to consider.

Don't hide

I WOULD like to respond to the recent "Op Sup Crisis" letters to the editor. How many of you have wanted something bad enough to do whatever it took to get it?

I know a lot of people who have jumped through admin hoops to get medical waivers, given up time with their family for study and or spent weeks away on courses for promotion.

All of these took significant effort and sacrifice because the goal in sight meant enough and they wanted it enough.

Do you care enough about your trade and your corps, your Service, to do something about it?

If you do care - about the people you work with or those you are responsible for, the job you do and you're in it for the long haul - then do something about it.

Don't complain about training standards, TMPs, ECRC cases or trade management without offering a solution.

My challenge to you all is this. Put your money where your mouth is and offer your experience, your skills and knowledge to those organisations where it can be used.

If you find yourself in the position where you are asked for comment, then don't just sit there. Provide feedback.

If you think you've got what it takes, then ask for a posting to where you can do some good.

These things don't happen overnight and they can't be fixed overnight. Good leadership (this starts with you) accountability (maintain high standards) and effort (it will involve hard work) means you won't be hiding in a foxhole as the war rages ... you'll be advancing on the enemy and gaining ground.
Capt R.K. Rice
Training Developer
ALTC, Bandiana VIC

No military sense

WITH reference to "Skill at Arms slipping under AIRN", Army, April 8.

I read this letter, and the response from SO1 Preparedness with some interest, given that recently, I was obliged to poke a weapon down a darkened WTSS lane, and fire 23 notional rounds.

Twenty-three rounds later I scored a group of 153mm. Not bad for a pogue who almost never handles a weapon, and who has fired on a live range twice in the past four years.

I have to ask if the people who write the AIRN rules are thinking about the real, nasty, terrorist-infested world out there.

Putting everyone except for SF and infantry through the WTSS, and considering that as an acceptable tick in the box may be easier to administer, but it makes no military sense.

The Grouping Practice does not assess a members' ability to safely handle and operate the weapon. It tests the members' ability to group and zero.

One range supervisor (usually a civilian) standing at one end of a darkened WTSS range cannot possibly assess each firers' weapon handling proficiency.

That is why we have (or used to have) coaches on the mound behind the firers (back when we used to fire real bullets at real targets.)

Sooner or later, the war on terror is going to hit us here in Australia, and then we'll all need to have our marksmanship up to date. We can't rely on SASR and 4RAR(Cdo) to do the wet work for us forever.
LCpl J.J. Gardner
ASACommcen
Victoria Barracks, Sydney NSW

Poor pay means critical trade

AFTER reading the front page of edition 1089 [Army, December 18], "Fair Hearing, Pay groups for infantry clerks and storemen fixed", I once again had my reasons for leaving the ADF reinforced.

Not to undermine the work that members of the RAInf perform (I along with many other medics hold a 343 rifleman qualification) but I had to ask why, as an advanced medical assistant corporals, are we paid less than an infantry clerk corporal?

And I don't need to hear that rubbish about being qualified at two trades, etc, as a large percentage of advanced medical assistants are multi skilled/trade qualified.

For too long we have been told your pay is being reviewed and that we cannot qualify for civilian qualifications equivalent to our job requirements.

Every day that we attend work we are required to perform medical tasks that, if performed incorrectly, can adversely affect or kill another member and yet we are placed in or below equivalent pay groups for low risk jobs.

The ADF has classed us as a critical trade due to the high number of discharges.

If the ADF looked at simple discrepancies such as pay and civilian qualifications there may be more medics retained rather than lost to better paying civilian jobs after putting themselves through uni or TAFE.

It is too late for me, but someone may be able to answer this and put a few of my fellow medics' minds at ease about their future with the ADF.
Cpl B. Stent
5 Avn Regt
RAAF Townsville, QLD

Be informed

IN JULY 2003, members of MSBS were given greater control of the Employee Benefit component of their MSBS portfolio.

This was achieved by providing five different investment strategies in which members could elect to have their own contributions invested, with different levels of risk and consequently returns.

The default strategy is the Growth Fund and for those who did not elect one of the other strategies, their total Employee Benefit was placed into this fund with effect July 1, 2003.

After three financial years of negative returns, a result consistent with the majority of investment funds, MSBS has followed the global trend and all strategies are in the black.

For those members who have not looked at the return their investments are currently earning, nor considered one of the other strategies, I suggest that you log on to comsuper.gov.au and take an interest in what is occurring in the investment arena.

I am not qualified, nor would I wish to recommend a strategy for any individual but I am concerned most MSBS contributors have probably not taken an active role in managing their sometimes significant funds.

The choice has been given to you and no-one else is going to manage your money for you, other than to put it into the default fund.
Maj Nick Read
ALTC
Bandiana, VIC

Second-class citizens living-in

WHY do living-in members seem to get treated like second-class citizens?

This is a topic that I could talk about ad nauseam but one recent incident in-particular has gone too far.

Renovations are soon to be conducted on OR accommodation within Randwick Barracks and, as a result, all members housed in a particular block were told to vacate.

The options I was informed of were: apply for RA and move out (because it's for service reasons, a full removal is the entitlement) or move to the other block and remain a living-in member.

As I am due to discharge in three months, it is not viable to live out, as Sydney will not be my discharge locality. So, by choosing to live-in I was told that I wasn't entitled to a removal or disturbance allowance as the move was in the same locality from living-in to living-in.

The ADF Pay and Conditions Manual, Volume 2, Chapter 4.1.3 - Member who is entitled to removal, states: "(1)(c) is required to vacate service or privately rented accommodation for reasons beyond the member's control".

Chapter 4.1.6 - Members who are not eligible for removal, states: "(d) the member is posted to the same locality or an adjacent locality and the residence is in the locality of the new posting, unless there is a requirement to relocate for Service reasons.

Chapter 4.3.2 - Disturbance Allowance - eligibility, states: "(2) However, a member is not entitled to disturbance allowance for a removal: (a) from living-in accommodation to living-in accommodation within an establishment, unit or base ...".

Therefore, I did not get a removal or receive disturbance allowance.

I could have used the removal as I have a large fridge, queen-sized bed and numerous heavy and cumbersome boxes.

Also, the disturbance for me (as opposed to someone moving out) was greater as I had a week to move everything (after returning from an overseas deployment), due to work commitments I had to work back on a number of evenings and the final weekend to vacate was spent doing an away training exercise with my unit and I didn't have the luxury of removalists packing and moving my belongings in one day.

The move was conducted in stages (time available), I was assisted with some heavy items from work colleagues and, to put it bluntly, it was a royal pain in the posterior.

Unfortunately, due to time constraints, I did not have time to look up all these rulings prior to vacating my previous abode and as such, could not challenge the Relocations Cell on the information I had been given. It seems I was misled or the rulings were unclear to DHA.

Either way, I feel that I am entitled to, at the very least, payment of disturbance allowance and that there should be more considerations given to members who choose to live-in and are evicted through no fault of their own.
Cpl Scott Johnson
1 Psych Unit
Randwick NSW

Adrian Wellspring, Director Housing Policy and Removals, responds:
Members moving from Living-In Accommodation to Living-In Accommodation in the same locality are eligible for a removal at public expense if the move is for reasons beyond the member's control (4.3.3 (c) of the ADF Pay and Conditions Manual).

A compulsory removal from Living-In Accommodation that is subject to refurbishment falls within this category.

Such a situation would also constitute a "requirement to locate for Service reasons" under clause 4.1.6 (d).

Unlike normal removals, however, a "bulk removal" is normally arranged to relocate all affected occupants of the Living-In Accommodation. Arrangements for a "bulk removal" for personnel in this circumstance are not normally managed by DHA.

A "bulk removal" would normally involve appointing a single point of contact to represent all affected personnel, the completion of inventory forms and liaising with the local Client Service Manager - Relocations and the regional Toll Transition personnel to ensure all personnel are moved at the same time.

Organising the removal through Toll Transitions also ensures the furniture and effects being relocated are correctly handled and protected by indemnity cover.

All costs associated with a bulk removal would normally be factored into the project costs associated with the refurbishment of accommodation.

Disturbance Allowance is paid to cover the unreimbursed costs that may be associated with a removal.

Although there is no definitive list of these costs, it would include items such as the accelerated depreciation of furniture and effects, spoilage of food items, additional school costs, etc.

Disturbance allowance is not paid to compensate a member for the inconvenience of moving personal belongings from one residence to another.

It is considered that a removal from one barrack block to another, within the same establishment, unit or base, is not of sufficient disruption as to warrant the payment of Disturbance Allowance.

Pay efficiencies

IN AUGUST 2003, we in the Catering Corps recieved a well-deserved pay increase.

I was also promoted with effect January 19, 2004, and it took until payday April 8 to see my spondulies.

However, on a happier note on February 26, I had another person move into my Rental Assistance property and lo and behold, as of March 11, an amount was taken out of my pay over two pays as I had been overpaid Rental Assistance.

Perhaps next time I receive a pay rise and an overpayment, could Housing please contact the pay cell at SCMA and take the money owing to them from the money that is owing to me or should I just employ a civilian debt recovery service to contact pay at SCMA. What the ...
Sgt R.A.Mills
Catering Pl
3RAR, Holsworthy Barracks, NSW

Taking it on the chin

I WAS just reading your sport article titled "If looks could kill" [Army, April 22] and noted that the writer whilst covering the subject matter well, was unable to spell the name of Australia's undisputed world boxing champion.

For the record, it is Kostya Tszyu. Yes, it isn't an easy one but I do believe that research is the backbone of acurate [sic], quality journalism.
Sgt Rod Reeves
RTC-SQ
Brisbane QLD

Editor's Note: Sgt Reeves is quite correct and we thank him for the correction. It is always nice to be reminded about research being the backbone of quality journalism, as is accurate spelling.

Mail's in ... not

TPR Allen's letter in the past Army newspaper [April 22], raised an issue that many here in Moleana believe needs answering.

I too received the mail brief before deploying to Timor, so to wait more than six weeks for mail is very frustrating.

We have been told that not all mail goes via air and that some gets sent by ship, but I find it hard to belive that is the reason it's taking so long.

There has to be some explanation and we are all very interested to find out what it is.
Cpl Martin McCulloch
5 Avn Det
Moleana, East Timor

Hairing your concerns

IF BEARDS prevent sealing of your face mask, why in a high-threat environment (ie, Iraq) were personnel permitted to have beards?
Capt Richard Peace
OIC Ops Training
SME, Steele Barracks, Moorebank NSW

Who is Army Jimbo?

I AM wondering who Army Jimbo is on the page which has the cartoons and Nodstar's excellent prophecies (which are eerily true). Can you reveal his identity? He sounds like a total spunk.
C. Sloate
Ngunnawal, ACT

Editor's Note: The identity of Army Jimbo cannot be revealed for insurance purposes.

Ask the Chief

Would you like to ask CA Lt-Gen Peter Leahy a question? It could be about acquisitions or uniform, operational tempo or a general welfare issue.

As part of hearing soldiers' views, CA has agreed to start Ask the Chief in Army newspaper.

He wants to know your questions so he can answer them in a future edition as part of his look back at what the Army has achieved and been part of in 2003.

As with Letters to the Editor, it is the right of all soldiers to ask CA a question through Ask the Chief in Army without using the chain of command.

Submit your questions in e-mail form to armynews@defencenews.gov.au with "ask the chief" in the subject line.

 

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