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Ask the Chief

Would you like to ask CA Lt-Gen Peter Leahy a question?

It could be about acquisitions or uniform, operational tempo or a general welfare issue.

As part of hearing soldiers' views, CA has agreed to start Ask the Chief in Army newspaper.

He wants to know your questions so he can answer them in a future edition as part of his look back at what the Army has achieved and been part of in 2003. As with Letters to the Editor, it is the right of all soldiers to ask CA a question through Ask the Chief in Army without using the chain of command.

Submit your questions in e-mail form to armynews@defencenews.gov.au with "ask the chief" in the subject line.

 

Slip, slip sliding away

I AM writing to comment on the article on the new rank slides being introduced for the new cold weather items (Army, September 25, pages 16-17).

My comments are as follows:

It appears we've gone for the lazy option of using the current RAAF NCO rank slides (AC to WOFF), hence the "Australia" title under the rank insignia.

I know we're all about joint ops these days, but do we have to pinch the RAAF's distinctive ranks just to save a few dollars?

No offence to the RAAF, but I'd like to be recognised as soldier in the field, not an airman.

In regards to the officer rank slides, why go to the expense of issuing a new set with "Australia" on them when they've already been issued rank slides that will do the trick?

I suspect it's just to make them look like the ex-RAAF NCO insignia being issued.

Is there really a need to put a box around the WO2 insignia? Most soldiers should be able to recognise that the WO2's crown is far larger than the major's ? If you can't see the difference, get down to the RAP for an eye test immediately!

As an aside, the British Army has been putting their rank slides on the front of their smocks for about 30 years now and they've had no problems figuring out their WO2s from their major's ?

Do we think our diggers are going to be any different?
WO2 Blair Tidey
1 Int Bn
Victoria Barracks, Sydney

Maj Nick Stanton, ACPEC -AHQ, responds:
Thanks for your letter with respect to the new rank slide.

Let's have a look at some of the issues you raise. First the implementation of the slides is not the case of the Army seeking the "lazy option".

All members of the Army hold a rank and given the number of new clothing items entering service, Land, Training and Special Operations Command all agreed that there was a requirement for a centrally located rank slide.

You are quite correct in stating that the Australian Army has moved towards a more joint approach in the development and introduction into service of new clothing. While there is a financial aspect to this, the principal factor is still related to operational requirements.

When you consider the fact that all of the ADF's recent operations have been as part of a multinational/coalition force, moving to a joint approach with respect to our uniforms makes sense.

If we were working solely with the British Army, confusion with the rank would not be a significant issue but we have, and will continue to work with an enormously diverse range of Defence Forces .

I trust that you, like the rest of us will wear the new rank slide that bears our country's name with great pride.

 

A low amount

I AM writing this letter to address the amount available for the ADF Home Loan grant.

Currently, the ADF offers a home loan to serving defence personnel after six years of service (without operational service), to the value of $80,000. In addition, they can receive the Homes Purchase Assistance Scheme (HPAS), Home Purchase or Sale Expenses Allowance (HPSEA) and the government's first homeowners grant.

This is a generous amount if a defence member is posted to Tasmania or South Australia; however, this can not always be the case. As we are all aware, the majority of Defence personnel are posted to Victoria, NSW, Queensland and the Northern Territory.

Which brings me to my point. property values in Victoria, NSW, Queensland and the Northern Territory has increased dramatically, and in some cases, as much as 125 per cent over the past 15 years.

The current home loan of $80,000, offered by Defence, would only be sufficient to pay a deposit in some States especially when you take into consideration that the stamp duty in the Liverpool area of Sydney NSW is averaging about $16,400.

My suggestion is to have the loan increased to coincide with the geographic location a defence member is posted in and to also coincide with the current market trends. In addition, being able to receive HPAS and HPSEA.

Another option available would be to open the current $80,000 loan to investment properties, allowing personnel to purchase properties in their home states for when they decide to leave the Defence Force. Whatever the decision, something needs to be done.

It would make postings to Sydney, Melbourne and Darwin more attractive by not having a ceiling on the amount available, as long as it was a realistic amount of course. Taking into consideration that Defence is trying to encourage personnel to do back to back postings in various locations; and defence members could be stuck in a location for a period of five years or more this would substantially ease the burden of being in an unwanted locality. A Return of Service Obligation (ROSO) could be placed on personnel who are granted the new loan, as a condition of service, and have not served 15 years or more, and 97to encourage retention within the ADF. Retention is an ongoing problem throughout the Services.

It would give Defence members the chance to have the all encompassing Australian dream, their own home. Just a little something for providing "unrestricted service".
WO2 Shane Campbell
IRR
Holsworthy Barracks, NSW

 

Recognition due

COLONEL Bob Breen's book, Giving Peace a Chance, details the story of Op Lagoon, the deployment of the South Pacific Peace Keeping Force (SPPKF) to Bougainville in 1994.

It is a good read about what is fast becoming a forgotten operation.

I confess to being confused as to why ADF members who deployed on the operation have not been awarded the ASM.

The SPPKF was a regionally initiated and UN sponsored peacekeeping force, the first of its type in our part of the world. The members deployed performed all of the expected peacekeeping functions, under much hardship and with limited preparation time.

The ASM requirement that service be "clearly and markedly more demanding than normal peacetime service" seems to have been easily met. Indeed, it was an armed mission with a robust rules of engagement that in some ways prepared the ground for later successful, albeit unarmed, missions. In Col Breen's words "Bougainville was a dangerous place in September 1994" and his book certainly supports this.

Workplace opinion suggests that as the mission did not last 30 days, then there is no provision for an award although I would dispute this. The ASM with clasp "Vietnam" was awarded for seven days service to those who served in Vietnam after the cessation of hostilities there in 1975.

Moreover, I understand that ADF members have received the ASM with clasp Special Operations for service of less than 30 days.

In all, it would seem petty to deny the ADF members who deployed on what was an historic peacekeeping mission the recognition they deserve.

Perhaps Army's readers could be informed in due course as to the official reason why no award has yet been made.
Capt M.A. Pert
DINTTC
Kokoda Bks, Canungra QLD

 

Thanks to SWBTA

I WISH to extend an open letter to the SWBTA Range Control and ECC Staff for their outstanding support to 2 Cav Regt and Battle Group Eagle during the period August to September this year.

In particular I would like to thank: Maj Ron Harris, WO1 John Webb, WO2 Al Sisley and Ms Christine Bell.

Their professionalism, understanding of user requirements and flexibility allowed my regiment and attachments to train in the most realistic manner during Exercises; Keldie Cup/ Flashing Sabre, Predators Gallop 03 and Croc 03.

Once again thank you for your "can-do" attitude and assistance to the end!

Courage.
Lt-Col A.K. Luke
CO 2 Cav Regt
Robertson Barracks, Palmerston, NT

 

NZ part of Z Force

I REFER to Maj John Liston's article on Z Special in Army, July 31.

I am delighted that the exploits of this unit have now been recorded for posterity. It is a pity that I was not aware of this project as I am in contact with two of the four remaining survivors who could have added a significant contribution.

I refer to Sgt Frank Wigzell (AKS 173) 2 NZEF, one of some 20 New Zealand personnel seconded to Z Special. His recent book: New Zealand Army Involvement, Special operations Australia, is a detailed account of his service with Z Special and SSgt Graham Greenwood( AKS179).

I note that Maj Liston fails to mention New Zealand in the composition of Z Special. I remind all that the "Z" in Anzac has a meaning and it should not be forgotten.

Also worth a mention is the fact that both the NZSAS Association and their Australian counterpart have recognized Z Special as one of their own and brought them into the SF community.

I am endeavouring to obtain Australian recognition for the NZ members of Z Special in the form of the Australian Service Medal 1939-45. If anybody can provide supporting evidence for this entitlement I would be pleased to hear from them.
Kevin Bovill,
Unit 2, 84 Zenobia St,
Palmyra WA 6157

 

Credit where credit is due


OVER the past several years there have been numerous changes to our removal systems which have often fallen short of the mark.

Those that were posted over the 2001/2002 Christmas period will no doubt know what I mean.

However, credit where credit is due.

I recently submitted my removal paperwork as requested by DHA (noting they received my posting order before I did) and have been very impressed with the service received.

Both DHA and Toll Transitions have processed my paperwork with utmost efficiency and I know three months before my removal date the amount of my allowances, who is conducting my move and even which motels I am staying in.

This is a vast improvement over the last removal conducted by the same organisations.

Well done to DHA and Toll Transitions on getting the system to work as it should.
Lt-Col Lyndon Anderson
CO 11CSSB
Lavarack Barracks, QLD

 

The benefits of MSBS


I WOULD like to congratulate Maj Priestly, Army, August 14, on his great memory regarding the fact that the employer benefit of MSBS was originally going to be indexed to the Average Weekly Ordinary Time Earnings.

While I wouldn't bet my first born on the fact, for as long as I can remember, the employer benefit has been indexed in line with CPI.

As to the other comments by Maj Priestly and WO2 Fardell in the same edition, there have been very few changes specifically to MSBS over the years since its inception.

Rather, federal governments of both colours have changed superannuation rules and as a complying fund.
MSBS has been affected like every other complying fund.

What both these gentlemen fail to acknowledge is that for every ADF member who does less than 20 years, MSBS is by far a better fund than DFRDB ever was and to let you into a little secret, for those who serve to CRA, or are made redundant, it is also a better deal.

I understand that historically, at the time of changeover in 1991, no more than a third of people ever did 20 years or more, so two thirds are immediately better off now than they would have been if DFRDB had still been in existence.

There is no doubt that if you were going to do more than 20 years and were not going to serve to CRA or very close to it, you were better off staying with DFRDB.

For those who made the wrong choice, my commiserations.

However we all make some bad decisions in our lives and when they are irreversible, the best thing to do is to forget about it and move on.
Maj Nick Read
OP Citadel
East Timor

 

What value a life?

I ATTENDED the presentation on the New Military Rehabilitation and Compensation Scheme at RAAF Williams in Melbourne on July 22.

I found the presentation informative, however, there was one aspect of the proposed scheme with which I disagree: the value of compensation to a family upon the death of a member.

The presentation implied that the family of a member who has died as a result of warlike service would receive a significantly greater amount than that received by a family of a member who died as a result of peace-time service.

The presenters justified this difference by citing it as a stipulation from ex-serving organisations.

Apart from the name placed upon the situation, whether it be; warlike, non-warlike (peacekeeping), or in a training/exercise environment, there are glaring similarities:

  • In these situations a defence member has lost their life.
  • All members signed on the same dotted line to serve their country unconditionally.
  • The difficulty it places upon their families is the same.

Although financial compensation is never adequate for the loss of a loved one, to imply that the compensation is dependant upon the environmental circumstances is derogatory of the service provided by soldiers, sailors and airman not deployed in "warlike" situations.

A death as a result of an accident in training, peacekeeping or general duties places the same financial burdens upon the family as a loss during war.

The presentation made it clear that the new scheme was trying to help the member, but this part of the new scheme actively discriminates between families for the same tragedy.

It is my opinion this part of the proposed scheme should be reviewed to the end that the compensation to the family should be the same regardless of the environment in which the death occurs.

I encourage all members to look over the information on the scheme at DPE's website http://www.defence.gov.au/dpe/militarycompensation2003/default.htm and to voice their opinion on this matter by writing to the DPE at militarycompensation.2003@defence.gov.au
Capt I.J. Stewart
DMO
RAAF Williams,
Laverton, VIC

 

We are better off

STOP your whingeing. Have a look at your civilian neighbours who pay rent. Even with excess water charges, we are a hell of a lot better off.

Air conditioners in Darwin - don't use them and you won't have to pay for them.
Sgt Marty Baylis
3CSSB
Lavarack Barracks, Qld


Townsville issues

Editor's note:
The following two letters are in response to the letter from Pte Paul Carolan, AHQ, published in Army's September 25 edition.

THE Defence Housing Authority (DHA) is required to supply housing to ADF members, which meet the standards set down in Defence policy. Service Residences (SRs) located in Townville have the required facilities as determined by applicable policy.

There are some SRs in Townsville that currently do not have TV antennas and outlets. DHA is resolving this by installing them during the vacancy turnaround period, as part of DHA's commitment to providing members and their families with good quality housing. Alternatively, this service can be provided earlier upon request by the current tenant.

Under this planning approach, you can be assured your selected SR will have a TV antenna facility provided before your occupation.

Not all homes have a dishwasher cavity in the kitchen. There is an alternative that allows members in a SR without a dishwasher cavity, to use their appliance and staff from the Townsville office would be happy to discuss this aspect further with you.

Air cooling is not an amenity that DHA is required to supply in the Townsville region under Defence policy. However, five years ago DHA made a decision to supply air cooling to all bedrooms of newly acquired houses and to retro-fit some level of air cooling to SRs at the same time.

The aim of this DHA initiative is to provide an amenity that reflects community standards for the Townsville region. I acknowledge that, in DHA's pursuit to continually improve and upgrade the quality of their housing stock, variations in the fit-out of SRs occur. I invite you to make contact with the Townsville office of DHA where professional staff will assist you in selecting a home that is most suitable to your family needs.
Bob Haylett,
DHA Housing Management Centre
Manager, Townsville QLD

Housing options

THE purpose of this letter is to provide you with a response that complements the response by DHA to the Letter to the Editor regarding Group A Housing in Townsville.

The current classification system for housing entitlements has been in place since the early 1990s.

Defence recognises that this system is prescriptive and rigid, and has not kept pace with changes in housing standards within the general community.

Defence Housing and Removals Policy and DHA have been looking at different ideas for a new way of classifying houses that recognises both the changes in community standards and provides a suitable contemporary approach to classifying housing entitlements.

The possibility of using the length of time served in the ADF as the basis for classifying housing entitlements was considered briefly. Significant problems were identified with this idea.

These include the difficulty in forecasting housing requirements and provisioning the right houses in the right locations, and the creation of a highly complex system that would need to also recognise rank, and family structure as well as length of service.

The idea is not regarded as practical by either Defence or DHA. We are continuing to work on options for improving the system for classifying housing entitlements.
Adrian Wellspring
Director, Housing and Removals Policy
Campbell Park Offices, ACT

 

Hidden costs

RECENTLY I discovered that some allotments made through the Army Pay System are charged a "Commission" or Administration Fee.

I had never heard of this fee previously - neither had my local pay rep or the Def Pac Representative she contacted for further advice.

However, the fact was that every fortnight on an allotment of $72.20 I was paying a 40c commission to someone, and had been for several years.

Eventually I spoke to a Def Pac employee in Canberra who confirmed for me that on some allotments to certain organisations (banks and non-government organisations excluded) there was a 2.75 per cent charge applied.

Apparently this charge has been in place for several years, as was confirmed by the recipient of my allotment who I had been consistently underpaying for several years.

The point I make is that I don't believe this practice of charging a commission has been well advertised, leading to cases like I experienced where the amount allotted was not sufficient to cover the financial responsibility.

Members should be advised of any extra costs incurred when they approach their pay office to make an allotment thus allowing them to allot the necessary amount to cover the expense.

For those with allotments to Defence Health, you also are paying this administration fee, however, the employee from Def Pac could only surmise that Defence Health include the 2.75 per cent charge to their fees, thus ensuring they receive their full fee.
WO2 A. Shackleton
Army Bravo Sqn,17 Div
ADFA, ACT

 

ERS was there

I WOULD like to make an addition to your article "Who'll Be There" (Army, August 3, page 4).

As it was, the Emergency Response Squadron (ERS) used to be a small unit unto themselves, but have now come of age and are part of IRR.

Now that we are part of a larger unit, I assumed we would be recognised but that was not the case. It is now that I write this as this is not the first time we have been left out and not been acknowledged for the work we do.

So now in saying that, I would like to add that 1 Tp ERS from Darwin was at Croc 03 too, and will be there for many exercises to come.
LCpl G.S Christensen
1 Tp ERS
Robertson Barracks, Darwin.

 

Weak link in admin

I WOULD like it to be known that there is a weak link in the administration process for serving members be it human or technological error.

Having done my part of moving paperwork through the chain, why does it take 10 or so weeks for it to be processed.

In that time money has been paid to me for which I was not entitled.

Before you say "that's why you should look at your SVA", one should have an SVA to consult so one can rectify a pay fault.

The topic of my disgust is the rate of pay for a living out member changing to a living in member.

So I am now left with a $600 system debt backdated to March with which I had no warning money would be deducted - thanks.
Spr Casey Millwood
1CER,
Robertson Barracks, Darwin

 

The myth of tax-free pay

I NOTICE that the myth of tax-free Army Reserve pay has yet again raised its uninformed head.

Sgt J Bannerman [Army, September 25], should know that Army Reserve pay is indeed taxed.

However, so that the Army does not lose the services of the corporate and industrial executives needed for co-ordination of a war effort, the tax component is removed before payment.

That way, Reserve pay is not added to earned income and then taxed. If that happened, highly paid members of the Reserve would end up paying the Government.

Because of the tax arrangement, reservists receive considerably less pay for their day's work than regulars of the same rank and cannot claim any tax back.

As for "other allowances", reservists receive a small attendance allowance, which, for most members, doesn't even cover the cost of the petrol used to attend.

Without the "commitment and service" mentioned by LCpl Elmore, the Army Reserve would cease to function.
Capt S.H.Crane
Advanced Education Wing,
Blamey Education Centre
Gallipoli Barracks,
Enoggera, Qld

 

Regiment, not a battery

JUST going through the internet looking at the Army newspaper, through the article "Galloping into ex" [Army, September 5] when I see that the units mentioned for the live fire, one of the units was incorrectly named, it states " 8/12 Mdm Bty" when it is named 8/12 Mdm Regt.
Cpl Chris Thorne
Defence Force Recruiting
Defence Plaza, Melbourne VIC

Editor's Note:
Well spotted and thanks for reminding us to pay attention to detail.

 

Short, sharp shock?

I KNOW this borders on the tediously trivial, but do you know the origin of the phrase "Short, sharp shock?"

It has taken on a currency of its own, but as I recall, it is from a report a British commander sent back to England from the American colonies in reference to his expectation that his upcoming attack (and capture) of New York City would bring the colonists back into line.

Of course, our President George has reinvigorated the concept with "Shock and Awe".

Thanks for your time and diligence. It was a pleasure reading your publication while searching for this bit of information.
Maj Roger C. Delight,
USAF/California Air National Guard (ret.)
rdelight@comcast.net

Editor's Note:
"Short, sharp shock" was the headline used on June 5 edition's centre feature on DFCE.

 

Call for former cadets

WE ARE seeking to to find any of the former cadet members from 201 RCU Dee Why that are currently serving in the Army.

The cadet unit was established in 1985 at Beacon Hill High School.

It is now based at 7 Fd Regt, 40 South Creek Road, Dee Why.

We are seeking to put together a contact register to enable us to keep in contact with former members.

Thanking you for your assistance.
Capt Laurie Hawthorne AAC
OC 201 RCU
Dee Why, NSW
rcu201@yahoo.com.au

 

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