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Fair day’s pay for RAInf

I must admit that I was taken aback when my CQMS handed me an e-mail he received about the most recent remuneration proposal being considered for RAInf clerks and storemen.

As most of your readers would be aware, clerks and storemen in the infantry are required to achieve all infantry promotion competencies (less range quals) to qualify for promotion up to and including sergeant.

In acknowledgment of this condition of service and upon successful completion of the Supervisor Infantry Operations – Section course, they receive Pay Group 4.

Consider my amazement when I read in the latest case to be put forward that not only is there a proposal to increase the level of infantry competence to include WO2, that they will never progress past Pay Group 3 (woo hoo!).

As part of this new proposal the infantry will recognise two rifleman specialist streams. One will be made up of the traditional specialist quals of mortars, signals, DFSW, etc, and the other of clerks and storemen. One will be paid Pay Group 4 and the other will not.

Now some readers from that “other” corps may say “so what, I’m a clerk and I only get Pay Group 3”. Let’s not forget that infantry clerks and storemen do not start out as such. They all start their respective careers as riflemen and later choose, for what ever reason, to become clerks and op sups.

Additionally, and as I have already explained, they must continue to demonstrate competency as riflemen to qualify for advancement.

This is significantly different from Ordnance where clerks and op sups proliferate.

These members are received and trained as clerks and storemen first and foremost and infantry competency is confined to assessment on the all-corps Sub 1 course.

Now don’t get me wrong, I am not sledging clerks and op sups from Ordnance. A thing is what it is. All I am saying is that a bloke deserves a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work and I would not be surprised if there are infantry clerks and op sups everywhere saying “what the?”
Duty First.
WO2 Andrew J Emery
12/40RTR
Youngtown Depot, Tasmania

We’re owed too

The front-page article “Time to Pay” in Army, June 19, certainly caught my attention.

The whole emphasis of the article deals with the debt owed by Defence personnel, such as overpayment of allowances, with the possibility of these debtors facing legal action.

How about we take a step back and look at the overdue debt that is owed to Defence personnel, (it would be an interesting comparison to see how this figure stacks up against the quoted $4.6 million debt owed to the Commonwealth).

Two examples from within my section immediately come to mind. The first being a soldier (among several others) who waited approximately a year for field allowances from Exercise Tandem Thrust 2001.

The second being another soldier who is still awaiting payment of incidentals from a deployment to Darwin in December last year.

Without investigating it any further, I am sure that there would be many more instances Defence-wide that are of similar circumstance.

With the shoe on the other foot, I now ask the question, are the people who are responsible for the late payment of these allowances to be subjected to the same legal action as to those members who are late in paying a debt?
Cpl S. D. Edwards
5 Avn Regt
Townsville, QLD

Fair go?

While endorsing the need for bad debtors to give the system a fair go, (“Time to Pay” Army, June 19) Defence must first ensure its own house is in order.

After getting an Accounts Receivable Invoice recently for a debt accrued more than three years ago, and after several other experiences, I suspect Defence’s records.

If it takes that long to identify an alleged debtor (who has been in the mainstream pay system throughout) it appears possible that there are weaknesses in the system.

When I rang to query the invoice my suspicions were reinforced by a second alleged debt.

In this instance I had identified and promptly repaid the bill 12 months before.

I have always been proactive with debt because I know Defence has a long, slow and at times imperfect ‘memory’.

Fortunately my SVAs supported my claims in this case. Unfortunately, simple staff checks don’t seem to be part of the debt recovery system.

I have also just received an incorrect notification that my operational service reunion travel was a fringe benefit!

Finally, I am not impressed with system-initiated debt recoveries, which can give less than 48 hours notice of an impending deduction. This is not enough time to rearrange financial matters, at least not for a single-income family.

Given the strong evidence of system weakness (and I know my situation is not unique), the apparently default setting of ‘member to pay’, indefinite statute of limitations on Defence members’ debts and the degree of warning of a salary deduction do not constitute a ‘Fair Go’.

And before Financial Services check my 1999 debt, I am still allegedly a bad debtor because I am more confident in my approach to bills and memory of that repayment than I am in the system.
Lt-Col John A. Symons
LSD Melbourne

You can fight it

Reference the hyped-up article on debt recovery, I don’t understand the point of it.

If you have been overpaid or incur a debt then Defence has the ability to garnish your wages to recover the debt.

Sometimes, however, these overpayments are not the members fault and there are methods by which you can pay the debt back in instalments.

My family has, in the past, been hit by a non-fair-wear debt (NFW) after vacating a married quarter.

The majority of the NFW claimed in this debt was the result of a vastly overzealous march-out inspection, which Buckingham Palace would have been lucky to get past.

I fought the debt, which eventually had to go through a Redress of Grievance process and had the debt substantially reduced.

My point is this – if you owe the Commonwealth money through a fair debt then pay up, if not, then Defence has systems in place to allow you to fight unfair debts.
WO2 Frank DeCorrado
7CSSB Enoggera QLD

The system works

I am writing to says thanks to a few people. At 8am on June 28 my step-brother rang me from Sydney to let me know he had taken my father to hospital suffering a heart attack. My step-mother is in the Army Reserve and was participating in a range practice at Singleton at the time.

Thanks to the efforts of WO2 Stein, Duty Officer RMC-A, WO2 Molinari, 12/16HRL, and the Director of Practice at Singleton, we were talking to my step-mother at 8.30am. 12/16HRL then arranged movements for my step-mother. Let’s all hope the system works this well if ever needed.
Capt Anna Llanwarne
RMC-A, Canberra

Waste of money

RECENTLY all TC-A units were directed to complete a TC-A Code of Conduct Audit to ensure that all staff and trainees were aware of the Fair Go Hotline and the Equity Chain. To do this, my unit has scheduled an additional parade night to ensure compliance.

Looking at general resource figures, this will cost Defence $6996 in ARTDs, and more in attendance allowance, and that is for one average-sized unit.

For what purpose? What will TC-A do with this information once the hundreds of man-hours produce the statistics? So a staff officer can display yet another glossy table full of irrelevant information for the weekly brief? Or so we can receive another public accolade for our ongoing compliance with workplace equity.

I may be old-fashioned, but how about this solution – Commander TC-A tells his COs to ensure compliance, and they do it. Last time I looked, that’s how the chain of command worked.

Let’s break this costly and labour-intensive management cycle and get back to soldiering before we implode under pointless paperwork.
Capt Gerry McGowan
Adjutant QUR
St Lucia, QLD

Spending choices

Although no-one can begrudge the excellent efforts of our Special Forces in Afghanistan and more recently in Iraq, I wonder if the Defence Department’s funding for SF is being influenced by the glowing PR gained from such activities.

The recent allocation of $80 million to buy, amongst other things, Javelin AT missiles for SASR in one example. While the “niche”capabilities that were so hyped during the conflict in Iraq are all well and good, niche capabilities don’t win wars.

One wonders who would face the largest armoured threat in a conflict – a four-man SASR patrol or a 600-man infantry battalion who have to rely on 40-year-old Carl Gustavs with a negligible penetration capability (if any), given the standard of armoured protection on today’s Main Battle Tanks.

Perhaps Defence should start looking at upgrading the Army’s traditional offensive capabilities, ie, infantry, armour, etc, rather than relying purely on our Special Forces to conduct the offensive operations on the battlefield.

I understand that deploying SF elements maybe faster and cheaper (given their relatively small size and level of readiness) than company or battalion groups, but there will always be situations for which SF are unsuited and in which properly equipped infantry groups are, and will, continue to be ideal.
Cpl Daniel Sells
16 AD Regt
Woodside Barracks, SA

Help wanted on Pilatus

I am from a NZ company, Skydive Auckland, operating a Pilatus Porter PC6/B1-H2 as part of our skydiving fleet. A recent check showed the aircraft to weigh about 400 lbs more than the standard aircraft.

This aircraft was owned by the Australian Army from January 16, 1969, to December 22, 1992, and we suspect that the armour plating, which was added to the aircraft accounts for the extra weight.

However, Pilatus cannot confirm where this plating was fitted in the aircraft as their records have been lost or destroyed. We are seeking anyone who might have some information about this plating as to which part of the aircraft it has been fitted to and how to remove it.

Specific aircraft details are as follows:
Serial No A14-693. Built in 1968. Bought by the Australian Army, January 16, 1969. Sold in 1993 from Essendon to Skydive Express in Perth as VH-REL. With Australian Army Aviation Corps’ 161 Independent Reconnaissance Flight (IRF), 163 IRF, 171 Air Cavalry Flight, 173 General Support Sqn. and the Army Aviation School.
Libby Lyver
Skydive Auckland, e-mail:
info@skydiveauckland.com

 

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