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Press 1 for frustration

Recently I wanted to speak to my counterpart in another unit and needed a telephone number to call them. I looked up the Defence Telephone Directory on my desktop computer to find the correct number.

I knew the name of the unit and the appointment.

I also believed I knew the rank.

Happily I provided this info in the boxes provided and waited eagerly for the result.

No match could be found. This was a problem, as there now does not seem to be any other form of directory available to assist.

Looking at the page in frustration (an emotion I have become accustomed to using Defence Computer Systems) I noticed an icon on the screen that offered me the opportunity to provide some feedback.

I thought about this and considered that if it was a problem to me, perhaps others might have a similar concern. I tapped on the icon and got another screen with a link to e-mail the administrator.

Quick as a flash I hit the spot. My concerns were important and would be listened to. I now received another message telling me that the program could not be found.

Undaunted I spotted a note at the bottom of the page telling me that, alternatively I could ring the Local Voice Service Centre with my problem.

I dialled this number eagerly and waited for what seemed forever on hold after being assured my call was important.

Finally I started to explain my problem; help was at hand.

The operator after listening politely for a few seconds cut in and said that this was a computer problem and I should speak to the IT Help Line. She very helpfully provided me with a number to ring and I did.

I explained the problem that I was having and the person answered very sympathetically that, although my problem was understood, the Prince Alfred Diseases unit would be unable to assist me in this matter.

I was also informed that I was not the first caller who seemed to have the wrong number this morning and would I mind calling back the number provider to ask them to sort out the wrong number business.

At this time, I was running short of time; I had other work and I still had been unable to make my call. I followed through anyway as they had been so helpful and rang back the helpline.

I listened to the message that said my message was important and held the line. This time I listened to the hold music (for an eternity) and wondered if it was worth continuing.

The music kept cutting in and out in a very irritating manner and caused me to consider hanging up. If their own system was such a mess what use would they be to me?

This would have been smarter anyway as when I did get to speak to an operator I was told that, of course, it was the wrong number and I would not have been given it by them.

He was not interested in the fact that several calls had been made to the other number because, that number would not have come from them.

At this point I gave up. It is not worth the time and trouble.
WO2 Bob Behrendt
131 STA Bty
Enoggera Barracks, Qld

Civvies not soldiers

In reply to Mr Palmer’s letters in Army edition 1068 [February 27].

The difference between pay should in no way come down to service allowance due to one of the conditions being the fact that Defence members come under the DFDA.

The civilian monitors in Bougainville do not fall under the DFDA and if they wish to receive service allowance then they can sign on the dotted line and join the forces.

The civilian monitors in Bougainville do a great job and I have a lot of respect for most of then. Mr Palmer’s statement about civilians belonging to the PMG, wearing the same uniform, patrolling the same village and participating in the same security pickets is not all together correct.

The civilian monitors do not wear the same uniform, as they are not members of the ADF. Instead they wear a civilian-designed hiking equivalent, which is supplied by Defence.

When on patrol the civilian monitors come under control of the Defence members who are in charge of the patrol, for obvious reason, due to safety requirements.

They do participate in security pickets but at the first sight of any danger are removed to a safe area along with other members of the PMG.

The removal of members is covered by unarmed Defence force personnel placing themselves between the danger and the remaining members of the PMG – why are they evacuated?

Another reason why Defence members are paid service allowance is due to the out-of-the-ordinary danger we face.

In response to the part about going, by my logic, that there should be a separate medal for National Servicemen, I never once stated that service personnel should not receive the medal – just civilians.

National Servicemen were part of the ADF and came under the same conditions – when civilian members are ready to do this then they will deserve the same rewards.

On the matter of tax, Defence personnel are now entitled to receive tax-free pay – all at least two-thirds of it tax free.

The tax finding is for personnel who have served 91 days continuous duty in Bougainville.

There will be some more information coming out on this matter shortly from DEFPAC.

I am thankful that Mr Palmer at least took the time to reply to my letter.
Sgt P. Falconer
PMG Bougainville

Pay is a factor

With regard to the question of retention I don’t believe that this is entirely an issue of morale or recruiting or pay, more a combination. I do believe, however, that pay is a contributing factor.

As a corporal on pay group five with 10 years service I was astounded recently to find that after all this time and training, both for trade and promotion, that my salary (including service allowance) is less than the base wage of a Sydney Council parking inspector ($47,000 p.a.).

I can hear the screams now, what about your free medical and dental?

Granted, these benefits are provided but are they not only a benefit to me when they are used? If I remain healthy over a 12-month period then that means one visit for a med board, and then I only require to see a doctor every five years.

Plus a visit to the dentist. Total benefit to me less than $150 p.a. But it is there if you are sick or injured at any time.

Yes it is, but I don’t believe that the benefits provided add up to get my pay group even close to $50,000 p.a., which is not a hard base wage to attain in the civilian world. Before you ask, yes, I have seen the Comparative Employment Value Adjustable Model (CEVAM) and find its figures hard to believe.

We recently had a pay rise and another one is due this year, the total of which is 6 per cent over two years.

NSW nurses recently gained an increase of 15 per cent not over two years but as a one-off increase. It is my belief that a one off increase in the order of 10 to15 per cent is required to accurately remunerate soldiers for those many things that stand us apart from the general population.

We are not civilians and cannot be aligned with civilian equivalents, because there are none. Service allowance, I hear you say – sorry, that just doesn’t cut it anymore.

I am not about to jump ship (or landrover), I like my job and have many friends in the Army but it would be nice to see soldiers paid what we are really worth, then we may not mind so much if we have to ‘do more with less.’
Cpl R. Fowler
ISD Paddington, NSW

Discharges needed

As soldier, retention appears to be of some concern at the moment, I’m prepared to save the Defence force thousands of dollars in surveys and give the diggers’ point of view.

It may sound whacky, but I believe the key to soldier retention is to improve our soldier dismissal system.

When someone first joins the Army there is a set criteria that they have to adhere to.

If they are not up to scratch, they are sent on their way.

However, once securely embedded in the Army system, if that person’s performance drops below par it doesn’t seem as easy to say goodbye!

It seems the easiest solution for ‘the powers that be’ is to post the incompetent to an out-of-the-way position.

This may get them out of their hair but in most cases the incompetent are still able to influence and control young soldiers early in their careers.

It doesn’t take long for a digger’s desire of a long-term soldiering career to quickly dissipate with constant poor leadership!

As a digger I do not claim to understand the full workings of the Army’s dismissal system.

But I do know that there are too many incompetent people influencing young soldiers everyday, resulting in more discharges than unprotected sex!
Spr Andrew Duggan
1CER
Robertson Barracks, NT

Rugby anecdote is a myth

I was a little curious as the anecdotal evidence in the article on the ASRU museum in the most recent edition of Army [March 13].

William Webb Ellis’ run is widely regarded as mythology – it did not even come to light until 1876 – four years after his death and there seems to be no written account by an eyewitness at the time.

It would also seem unlikely that few, if any, attendees of Rugby at the time of the infamous run would have been in the colony between late 1823 and mid-1829.

It seems most likely that rugby union was brought to these shores in about 1864.

Perhaps ADF soccer players have a greater claim to July 25, 1829.
Paul Cross
PACC,
Russell Offices, ACT

Thunder box and lightning

I was wondering if anyone else in the Army had noticed that every Army bus seems to have a broken toilet.
Cpl M. Rose
3RAR
Holsworthy Barracks, NSW

Thanks for Aussie spirit

I would like to thank those who provided assistance to myself and family.

The loss of our son Tony, was a time of great tragedy to our family. Your understanding and assistance in this time was greatly appreciated.

Again many thanks from my family. You have shown the Australian spirit is alive and well.
WO1 John Frazer
RSM D.D., ALTC,
Bandiana, NSW

Just a counter-measure

I REFER to the letter sent to Army [March 13] by Cpl R. Ingram from Kapooka entitled ‘PMKeyS Fails Again.’

There was good reason behind members at ARTC being asked about their leave balances.

It was an effort to identify any significant differences between what leave the soldier knew he or she had in comparison to what appeared on PMKeyS.

It was a counter measure, requested by myself through the company clerks, so that if a significant disrepency appeared, it could be investigated and corrected before it became detrimental to the member.

As I have only recently marched into ARTC, this is also an avenue I have used to ensure that errors made on rollout have been dealt with and subsequently corrected before the end of the leave year, attempting to ensure any problems do not snowball into the next leave year, and, again, become detrimental to the member.

You have my sincere apologies if I caused you any inconvenience by asking a simple question, Cpl Ingram.
Sgt John Fogg
Chief Clerk
Recruit Training Wing Kapooka

Still waiting, waiting

I can sympathise with Bryan Nelson (Questions of Awards, Army, December 19, 2002).

I wish to challenge the statement by the Acting Director-General Career Management Policy that ‘for the record, the longest waiting period for any category of awards to be processed is 12 months ...’

It would seem that clasps and rosettes are not included in this.

My application for the third clasp to my RFM was submitted in August 1999. A year later nothing had been heard and when I approached the orderly room, I was told that ‘there is this little thing to the north of us [Timor] that is keeping them busy’.

Shortly afterwards I went inactive and re-activated a year later, still no clasps.

I approached my new orderly room and asked them to send a query away again.

To the best of my knowledge still no response. Here it is almost four years later and still no clasps. Perhaps they are waiting for my next application.
Sgt T. Connell
AAC HQ NT
Darwin, NT

 

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