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Woof! Back on base

I would like to respond to CPL Russ’s comments in Army, October 10, relating to banning domestic dogs from the Holsworthy base due to a perceived lack of common sense and compassion.

The initial decision to ban domestic dogs from Holsworthy Base was made after the IRR raised concerns to my staff in relation to their possible adverse affect on the health of the unit’s Explosive Detection Dogs (EDD) and the unauthorised use of the EDD agility course.

A number of domestic dogs had been seen inside the base without obvious control by their owners. Some domestic dogs have been seen using the EDD agility obstacle which has inherent safety risks for the untrained.
Some of the owners were also failing to remove their dog’s excrement which may transmit life threatening diseases to the EDDs.

All these factors, plus the inability to know whether these dogs were properly vaccinated, formed an unacceptable risk to the health of our operationally important and very expensive EDD.

The risks to the EDD health and also to the domestic dogs that have been using the agility course were the primary reasons for the ban.

The ban was certainly not the result of a complaint by an officer about the barber’s dog, as was stated by Cpl Russ in his letter.

However, after taking the decision to ban the dogs, in order to protect the EDDs, I immediately arranged a follow up review of the policy in the interests of base personnel.

Subsequent advice from the IRR caused me to amend the situation to allow members to bring their pet dogs into Holsworthy Barracks provided they follow a set of guidelines designed for the benefit of all.

These guidelines were forwarded to Holsworthy units on September 17. The barber will also be advised.

Dog owners are now free to bring their dogs on base provided they clean away their dog’s excrement, have their dogs registered and avoid the agility course.

Of course, health regulations will always restrict dogs in other parts of the base such as medical centres, messes and where food is sold.
Col R. Wright
Liverpool Military Area Army Representative,
HQ 5 Bde, Malaya Lines,
Holsworthy, NSW.

An explosive issue

Yet again the can of worms, about who can do what, has been opened.

I have a number of points regarding the “Ammo techs vital” article (Army, September 11) that need to be addressed.

The phrase “we belong to RAAOC and explosive ordnance disposal is the main part of our trade” is technically incorrect.

RAAOC does indeed conduct EOD operations, mainly in support of civil police (IED disposal) and the recovery of military ordnance that has been souvenired.

The corps is also responsible for the disposal of service ammunition that is unserviceable (depot demolitions) or has malfunctioned in some manner, disposal of malfunctioned explosive ordnance.

The phrase “We have also been destroying all of the WW2 explosive ordnance found on the island” is technically incorrect.

While the corps does have the charter to dispose of ex-military ordnance, DI(A) Ops 25-1 precludes RAAOC from conducting ordnance disposal activities within an AO – East Timor is such an AO.

This raises another question, what types of ordnance was the corps destroying?

If these items included air delivered ordnance, guided weapons or chemical munitions, they are once again operating outside of their charter IAW DI(A) Ops 25-1.

Items of this nature are only to be dealt with by suitably qualified RAE EOD Technicians and Navy Clearance Divers.

The phrase “While we’re on operation(s), we do everything the engineers do when it comes to weapon disposal” is technically incorrect.

RAAOC Ammo Techs (AT) and ammo tech officers (ATO) are not trained in the render safe or dispose of aerial-delivered weapons, guided weapons (other than those that are in land service with the ADF), chemical munitions or foreign ordnance.

While RAAOC is responsible for the disposal of captured enemy ammunition facilities/stockpiles, the corps is again in clear contravention of DI(A) Ops 25-1.

Additionally, RAAOC members are not trained de-miners nor are they trained in the rendering safe of foreign munitions, both of which lie outside of their charter in accordance with DI(A) Ops 25-1.

While I have, over the years worked with many AT/ATO I find it unbelievable that we are still going on about who can do what, given that the reference that I have frequently mentioned, clearly describes each corps/trade’s responsibilities.

In short, the members cannot do everything that engineers can do on operations.

It is my fervent desire that this reply to the subject story be printed as I know that there is going to be a lot said regarding the content.
WO2 W. Schoer
SSM CBRR Sqn, IRR,
EOD Manager,
Holsworthy Barracks, NSW

We’re not a business

Units issued with ABNs, service numbers replaced by employer IDs, hiring new recruits/officers instead of enlisting/or appointing new soldiers, and contracting a majority of our logistical support to name a few issues on how the ADF has lost its capability of being a Defence Force.

Army’s motto is “Serving the Nation”. It is the concern of many soldiers and my opinion that the Army and the ADF is trying to be run like a large business.

I think we need to take a step back and realise that the Army and the ADF as a whole is not a business but an organisation to protect and serve the nation in defence.

This cannot be achieved when we run it like a business.

Businesses will not fight wars or go on operations when it involves loss of life.

We need to concentrate on the asset, being the uniformed personnel of the ADF, enabling them to do their job.

This includes the training and the equipment to let them do their job.

With the events happening around the world today (especially near Australia’s doorstep!) we may learn this the hard way.

Let’s hope we don’t.
Cpl B.L. Verco
ARTC,
Kapooka, NSW

Parity and equity

In response to Cpl Allen and Capt Thomason (Army, October 24), I certainly am proud of the fact that I served in Bougainville and did indeed enjoy immense personal satisfaction doing the job I have trained many years for.

I would also suggest that the operations they served on should be considered in any move to bring parity to the award of service or mission specific medals.

What is interesting to note is that the only replies to my original letter to date are from personnel who served on operations who also did not receive the sort of recognition, whether it be through awards, media/government interest, or public awareness that locations such as Timor or Afghanistan have.

I would still be interested to receive a reply to my original question which is, “what happened to the proposal put forward by two Commanders PMG, then Brigs Roberts and Silverstone, and supported by then Maj-Gen Cosgrove for a mission specific award for the PMG?”.

At the same time, an answer on any additional awards for Capt Thomason and Cpl Allen’s operations could be provided.

Yes, the ribbons may look pretty (I think it was a pretty big tongue in your cheek, Capt Thomason), our operational tempo may be high and recognition may be a case of “take what you can get” but I do believe that parity/equity is an issue and there are personnel who have served, but whose service may not have been considered “sexy” enough.

It took more than 25 years, but even Vietnam veterans were finally given a degree of recognition that many, before and since, enjoyed – without the fight.
Cpl D. King
103 Sig Sqn,
Lavarack Barracks, QLD

Dry our eyes

In regard to Cpl King’s letter, (Army, October 10) his memory serves him incorrectly. Soldiers serving in the 1RAR Bn Gp with Unified Task Force (UNITAF) Somalia received a single decoration – the AASM.

The 1RAR Bn Gp was also awarded the Chief of the General Staff Commendation, for the battalion group’s outstanding service in Somalia.

The commendation is a piece of paper that hangs in BHQ 1RAR and other units within the group were given a photocopy of it to hang in their units.

For the soldiers of the group, if they wanted a copy they had to photocopy their own.

I think as soldiers we should not be concerned by how many medals we are going to get, and why am I only getting the ASM and not the AASM by doing the job we are paid to do.

If people are so concerned with this and not the lack of decent field equipment to perform our duties, I think it is time we dried our eyes and got on with our job.

I favour the one medal for one operation. If no decoration is struck (UN, INTERFET, MFO) then the ASM or AASM should be awarded.
Sgt C.R. Cook
2 Cav Regt,
Robertson Barracks, NT

Save RAAF’s money

The comments of Flt-Sgt Brasher (Army, October 10) lead me to ask the question of why the RAAF has not outsourced the ADG roll – they are only there to guard airfields, are they not?

The other skills the flight sergeant spoke of would also be prime targets to save the RAAF some dollars and contract out.

May be this could free up some of the places ADG sergeants take at the School of Infantry and give the infantry sergeants a shot at some courses.

A question for the flight sergeant – why are your ADG officers receiving training at RMC ?

I think some of your boys should try infantry IET training and see if they can last.
Sgt G. Fletcher
Sergeant Ammunition Technician,
EOD Control Centre,
JALO Regional Services,
Holsworthy Barracks, NSW

Spanish inquisition

Thank you, Army, for publishing my letter regarding Frontline (Army, October 10). Thank you Andrew Williams (General Manager – Marketing and Operations, Frontline) for not answering my question. You made it obvious in your response to my, and Cpl Pitt’s letter, how hard it is to get a straight answer. It has prompted me to do some more research although I did not get far.

According to Smartlicence and the Department of Fair Trading, Frontline is not registered as a non-profit organisation.

This means that I cannot find out any more information on the major supplier to Defence canteens.

I would like to know who sits on the board of directors? For no other reason than to see if there is a single soldier, airman or sailor representing the people for whom this great company was created.

If, as they say, it is for the soldiers, then there should be some kind of information about the company somewhere.

I cannot even find out the projected topics of discussion at board meetings. I asked for a copy of the constitution/contract between Frontline and Defence.

After the Spanish inquisition, I was stonewalled. There are a lot of people disgruntled by the service that Frontline provides – how do these people get something done?

You would have to add 30 pages devoted to Letters to the Editor if they all wrote to Army.

If each person wrote a minute to their OC/CO, they would be inundated with letters and I doubt it would be effective.

If you are reading this letter and have any clue how to change this situation, could you write into Army and let us all know.

Editor: Have you received a reply on the profit from East Timor yet?
Cpl G. Frew
162 Recce Sqn,
Lavarack Barracks, QLD
Editor’s Response: CA Lt-Gen Peter Leahy has passed on to me the royalty payment report from Frontline for the April to June quarter of the 2001-2002 financial year.
This will be turned into a story for next edition.
The Frontline web site, www.frontlineds.com.au, has the 2000 annual report on it as a PDF document.
This contains a list of the directors, accurate as of that report’s date of publication.

Looking elsewhere

I would like to add to the letters written by Cpl Frew and Cpl Pitt (Army, October 10) in reference to Frontline.

It uses the excuse that it is not a big enough chain to match pricing with the bigger stores.

I find it sad that prices back in Australia are cheaper with tax than what you can buy from Frontline in East Timor duty-free.

What is stopping Frontline going to some of the bigger chains and inquiring if these large chains can provide Frontline with these products for the same price, or is that too logical?

I’m sure Harvey Norman or any of the big chains would do this as it also boosts their sales.

Even the takeaway foods at the canteens have become excessive, for example, $2.20 for a bottle of Coke and the service station out the front of base sells them for $2 – I could go on but we all get the idea.

It seems to me that it has become to hard for Frontline to look after the soldier so the soldier has to look elsewhere.
Cpl T. Gibson
MOVCON Oecussi,
East Timor

Competitive ... not

CPL Pitt’s comments regarding Frontline in edition 1061 (Army October 10) have prompted me to ask a question along similar lines.

His comments outlined his difficulties in receiving a competitive price from Frontline when purchasing a new computer.

My situation relates to 1JAU in East Timor.

I am still serving in East Timor and took advantage of 1JAU to purchase a Microsoft XBox, plus games and accessories.

I appreciate that 1JAU are not in place to provide the lowest price possible, however, their goods are supposed to be duty free.

Two purchases I have made bring this into question.

Specifically, I purchased a memory card and extra controller for my XBox.

1JAU charged $75 for the memory card (which retails in Australia for about $50), and nearly $70 for the controller (retailing in Australia for about $55).

How can these prices then claim to be GST-exempt?

Surely Australian retailers are not selling their goods at a tremendous loss, purely to increase sales?

I know that 1JAU does not set the prices, but I fail to see how $75 is duty-free, when $50 is retail.

Taking into account that the freepost mail from Australia is actually quicker than a specific order from JAU, is it any wonder that they have now lost a customer?

I would suggest that the system needs to look into their pricing.

Just because we are on East Timor allowances, doesn’t mean we should be throwing it away.
Cpl T. Schmidt
DCP,
East Timor

Clarification

I refer to the article headlined “Once were warriors” written by WO2 Graham McBean in the October 24 edition of Army, in which I was interviewed as part of 25/49RQR’s participation in Exercise Suman Warrior.

My actual words, or to the best of my recollections of what I said, was that my father served in the Army during the time of the Vietnam conflict.

He served as a sapper from 1970 to 1973. To further clarify this, as like most of us, he was keen to deploy on operations. He missed out on his opportunity for deployment, to marry my mother.

As someone said, it was probably lucky for me. I might not be here today as the person who replaced him for that deployment sat on a mine.

After that rotation, the war scaled down and the opportunity to deploy was missed.

I understand how what I said might have been confused and I apologise to any Vietnam veterans who might be offended.

My grandfather served as an assault pioneer in Borneo with the 1st Bn, 2AIF.
Lt S. McNamara
25/49RQR,
Oakey, QLD.

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